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Despite what it says on Lindsay Lohan’s leaked “sex list,” James Franco swears they never slept together. In a recent interview with Howard Stern, Franco shares a few details about a time Lohan broke into his hotel room during “a very dark period in her history.” Yuck.

Franco cops to kissing Lohan, but says “I will swear on my mother’s life I didn’t have sex with her.” Throughout the interview, he makes it sound like Lohan was stalking him, saying she would follow him to the pool and even once had herself let into his hotel room at three in the morning. He also says that the “hesitates” to call her a friend because “every time I’ve brought her back into my life or tried to be nice, it’s turned really lame and stupid.” 

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What’s really upsetting is the way Franco and Stern talk about Lohan—who, as they acknowledge, was at a low point in her life—as though she is some kind of lunatic. Stern goes so far as to call her “crazy” for writing Franco’s name on a list. A list leaked without her knowledge. A private list she wrote as a part of her treatment in rehab. Once again: Yuck.

Franco, meanwhile, is the hero of the story. He’s praised for resisting his natural urges and not taking advantage of a young woman. Stern calls it “admirable” that he didn’t sleep with Lohan. “Let’s face it, she’s a good looking girl. And she is Linday Lohan,” he says. “3 o’clock in the morning, she’s there, worshipping you, like staring at you like a puppy. Most guys would f--- the girl.”

He may have included several poems about Lohan in his book, but at least he didn’t make a list, right?

Listen to the interview at Entertainment Weekly.